Re: :zz: The !@#$% General solution impossible?

[Ted Nelson <ted@xxxxxxxxxx>]

You said:
>I don't presently see any simple solution for the general case, except
>to note that these are traditional problems of parallelism and there's
>no reason we can't implement traditional solutions such as semaphores,
>locks, queues, mailboxes and other kinds of inter-process messages as
>Zigzag cells.  

The reason is that if we aren't seriously simplifying
 in some original way, maybe we shouldn't be doing it.

>If anything it might make them more visual and hence
>perhaps easier to understand.

There is that.  ChrzT


At 11:10 AM 4/3/99 +1000, you wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 11:10:20PM +0900, Ted Nelson wrote:
>> The other alternative I could see would be to isolate
>>  what was needed: specifying some subset of data 
>>  that the forked processs would be working from,
>>  and zip its results back in later.
>
>Ah, yes.  Good point; that would work too.
>
>> This is, however, sadly context-specific.  Something
>>  really need and general would be nice.
>
>That's why I didn't initially mention it.
>
>> But that may not be possible: the results of parallel
>>  processes ripping through the fabric of cells in
>>  idiosyncratic ways could be ever so destructive.
>> 
>> I think this means we have to figure what sub-methods
>>  can be handled by what means.
>
>I don't presently see any simple solution for the general case, except
>to note that these are traditional problems of parallelism and there's
>no reason we can't implement traditional solutions such as semaphores,
>locks, queues, mailboxes and other kinds of inter-process messages as
>Zigzag cells.  If anything it might make them more visual and hence
>perhaps easier to understand.
>
>Cheers,
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